Transcription of taped conversation between James Emmit Dake and Owen C. Dake with regard to the photograph of a gathering in Mountain Grove, MO. Taped & transcribed November 1997. The location of the gathering is believed to be the home of John Jackson Dake located north of the Public Square at what is now (1997) the south east corner lot at the intersection of old highway 60 and state highway 95. The Mountain Grove City Hall is currently located on this lot and the lot was previously the site of George Feese's Chevrolet car dealership. The photograph was processed by Cassil & Dake Photographers which was located south of the Public Square (See back side of photo). Files: MtnGrove_1.jpg - Entire photograph MtnGrove_L.jpg - Close up of lower left half of picture MtnGrove_R.jpg - Close up of lower right half of picture MtnGrove_back.jpg-Back side of photo Dake,JJ&LBH - Close up of John Jackson and Lucinda B.H. (McGuire) Dake Transcription: Emmit: That's the picture of the home. Owen: This was where George Feese's garage was in Mountain Grove. Emmit: Right. Owen: And the City Hall is there on that property now. Emmit: Correct. Owen: And it looks like an enormous building. Emmit: It must have been pretty good size. I think a Powell built that. Owen: Do you think the Dake boys are in this picture? Emmit: I think so, yes.... Owen: Joseph Gardner would be in there. Who took the picture? Emmit: Sam Dake. It's on the back. Sam was the photographer. Had a place there on what's now the south part of Mountain Grove square area. I can't identify them by look. You can get a pretty good identification on this man( referring to large man with black hat). (Referring to back of picture) Owen: U.S.G. Dake - Cassil & Dake. So Sam was as photographer. Emmit: Yes. Owen: Professional Photographer. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Analysis: The photograph was processed by Cassil & Dake Photographers which was located south of the Public Square (See back side of photo). Samuel Gardner Dake, originally thought to have been the photographer, was born in 1884 and would have been only 12 years old when John Jackson Dake (1819-1896) died which is probably too young to have taken this picture. Frederick and Caroline (Robinson) Dake had a son named Ulysses S. Grant Dake (1866-1905). According to his obituary he lived in southern MO. from the fall of 1885 to the fall of 1889 (4 years). Ulysses would have been 23 years old when he moved to Mtn. Grove and having lived there 4 years could have been the U.S.G. Dake Photographer noted on the back of the picture. If the S. is for Samuel (Sam) this could have been the person Emmit was referring to instead of Samuel Gardner Dake (1884-1976). Since this was the home of John Jackson and Lucinda Bell H. (McGuire) Dake, it is presumed that they are standing on the porch of the home. To the left of the door is a large man with beard and black hat (id#13). This is believed to be Benjamin J. Dake (1821-1908). Note that he is standing behind an empty chair which is presumed to repersent his missing 2nd wife, Margaret F. (Simpson) Dake (1837-1888). Next to this man (toward the door) is another large man which is believed to be Frederick K. Dake (1826-1913) (id#11). Note that he is standing behind a seated lady which is believed to be his wife, Caroline (Robinson) Dake (1831-1896). Further to the left are two men in black suits. The one on the left (V-neck vest and looking down) is believed to be Daniel Dake (1818-1897) (id#21). Note that he is standing behind an empty chair which is presumed to repersent his missing wife, Eliza J. (Moore) Dake (1834-1883). The man on the right (with mustache and left hand on coat button) is then believed to be William "Bill" Dake (cir 1828-1909) (id#19). Note that he is standing behind an empty chair (child but no wife) which is presumed to repersent his missing 2nd wife, Mary A. (?) Dake. At this time there is no consensus on which is Frederick and which is William so the identifications of these men could be reversed. The remainder of the Men, Women and children are not identified at this time but id#16 and wife, id#17 appear to be the same persons in a the "Hales-Cox1900" photo id#15 and id#27 respectfully. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Some notable points are: John Jackson and Lucinda (McGuire) had sold 160 acres of land in Clark Co., Iowa July 09,1864 and is probably the time they left Iowa. It is believed they returned to Indiana for a short time but were in Wright Co., Missouri on the 1870 census. This photo would have been taken no earlier than July 09,1864 however. The adults appear to be paired husband and wife with husbands standing behind their wives (sitting). Three men are standing behind empty chairs (Benjamin, Daniel and William "Bill"). Benjamin's second wife, Margaret F. (Simpson) died October 08, 1888. This logic would suggest the photo was taken after October 08, 1888. Daniel's wife, Eliza (Moore) died January 24, 1883. This logic would suggest the photo was taken after January 24, 1883 There is a third man standing behind a chair with a child in it (no wife). This man is believed to be William "Bill" Dake. Williams's wife Druzilla (McGuire) died February 10, 1868. William had remarried Mary A. (?) who died in September 1894. This logic would suggest the photo was taken after September 1894. William "Bill" and Mary A. (?) Dake had a son, Perry T. born around 1874 in Missouri. Using the range of possible dates previously established Perry would have been at least 13 years and possibly as old as 21. There are several young men in the photo that could be in this age range so Perry is a possible attendee. Frederick K. Dake's wife Caroline (Robinson) Dake died 20 July 1896 in Van Buren Count, IA. John Jackson Dake died 30 March 1896. Both are believed to be present in this photo which places the date before 30 March 1896. Photo Date: probably between September 1894 and 30 March 1896. Ulysses Grant Dake (probable photographer) was in MO 1885-1889 according to his obituary. His age would have been 19 - 23 years old in this period but the period does not support the above logic. Henry Dake died March 17, 1865 after returning from the Civil War and would NOT have been in this picture. Humm... This needs more work. A confirming picture of either William or Frederick would be most helpful in resolving this. -- Owen C. Dake -- December 1997 -- Updated March 1999 -- Updates June 15, 2001 -- Updated October 10, 2005